May
08
2009

Pelosi. Knew. [Bumped.]

Hi, Activist Left.

[Further UPDATE]: Welcome, Instapundit readers. Umm. I dunno. Zombie MMORPG, maybe?

[UPDATE] You’d think that they thought that none of this would ever come out.

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Pelosi knew about the waterboarding.

She knew all along.

According to the memo the very first briefing listed is 9/4/02 with then Rep. Porter Goss & Pelosi.  The summary of the briefing says:

“Briefing on EITs including use of EITs on Abu Zubaydah, background on authorities, and a description of the particular EITs that had been employed.

This directly contradicts Pelosi’s story, that “we were not told that waterboarding or any of these other enhanced interrogation methods were used.

And here’s the important thing: we knew this already, and so did you.  You’ve been lying to the American people about this for six or so years solely because that way you could maybe stop the screaming that was going on in your own head.  It didn’t work, but then, it never was going to: you really shouldn’t have tried it in the first place.

So.  when you do nothing about this at all – and you won’t; hardcore antiwar activists are fundamentally moral cowards, and everybody knows it - I want you to remember something.  Everything that we said about you and your motivations? We know that it was all true, all along; you know that we know;  and you’ll never be able to somehow make that knowledge go away.  And you so badly want to: because all of this fleeting reflected glory is as nothing to you unless you hear us say “You win.”

And you never, ever will.

But don’t feel too bad.  Hey, why don’t you go find a woman or minority that doesn’t agree with you on an ideological point, and verbally assault him or her?  It always seems to have cheered you up in the past.

(See also Aaron Gardner’s RS RedHot on this topic.)

Moe Lane

PS: Long life to you all.  A long, long, long life.

Crossposted to RedState.

[UPDATE]: It’s all about speaking truth to processed power-substitute, Jules.

19 Comments

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  • MarkJ says:

    Favorite dish of Nancy Pelosi and Congressional Donks:

    “Duck under cover.”

  • Pixelkiller says:

    I think the VP coined the phrase, “Error in Judgement” when he got caught lieing. It was. The error was that in his judgement, he wouldn’t get caught.

  • [...] *See here. And, of course, here. [...]

  • [...] Lane on Pelosi’s lies about the waterboarding intel briefings. Hi, Activist [...]

  • Micha Elyi says:

    I hold the voters of Pelosi’s San Francisco district accountable. They could have elected Cindy Sheehan last year but didn’t.

  • Prodigal says:

    hardcore antiwar activists are fundamentally moral cowards

    what of the moral cowardice of those who defend war crimes because they were told that resorting to methods that people have been put on trial for war crimes in the past for would keep the Jihadi in the closet at bay?

    And there is a definite irony in ending a post where you have verbally assaulted a woman who doesn’t agree with you on an ideological point by insinuating that it’s only the other side who does what you have yourself just done.

  • Truly amazing- Pelosi was caught lying red-handed… and she’s STILL lying.

    Of course, she had no objection to the use of EITs for almost 5 years- until she was Speaker in 2007 and the antiwar left raised it as an issue. Suddenly she’s against it, and/or “knew nothing”. And obviously willing to lie to the whole country to create a more favorable reality.

    Apparently Obama and Pelosi forgot something: the CIA kills people… it’s in their job description. Did they really think these killers were going to meekly take one for the team… when the team captain is a lying, incompetent, arrogant nebbish with no real-world experience and who told them they need to kiss his ring? – please

    Pelosi is a no-talent hack who’s made a lot of enemies. Going to be hard to BS her way out of this one- her approval rating was like 9% before this story even broke.

    http://reaganiterepublicanresistance.blogspot.com/

  • Moe_Lane says:

    what of the moral cowardice of those who defend war crimes because they were told that resorting to methods that people have been put on trial for war crimes in the past for would keep the Jihadi in the closet at bay?

    I agree, Prodigal: it was obscene for Congressional Democrats to act in this way. Fortunately, the Bush administration – the good guys – acted out of duty, instead of fear.

    :Raising hand: In case you were wondering, you’ve just hit the point where I let past friendship act as a mitigator. This site isn’t set up to let antiwar supporters tell themselves that they’re the good guys, really.

  • Prodigal says:

    Fortunately, the Bush administration – the good guys – acted out of duty, instead of fear.

    You use a strange definition of “obscene” to say that being aware of war crimes being committed isobscene, while calling those who tried to create a leghal cover for those crimes “the good guys”.

  • Moe_Lane says:

    No, I’m just refusing to let you proceed as if I accepted that you made the right moral choice on the GWOT.

    Was there anything further?

  • Prodigal says:

    Until you start applying a single, consistent standard in this matter, then no, not really.

  • Moe_Lane says:

    Then I suggest that you concentrate on the non-political threads in the future, for your own peace of mind.

  • Prodigal says:

    You’re less likely to disappoint me in those, so will do.

  • Jim Treacher says:

    Presumably, Prodigal will be in the front row when Truman is tried for war crimes in absentia.

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