Oct
28
2013

My sympathies for, and hard-nosed observation to, @davidfrum. #obamacare

I will not mock David Frum for this.

Because what happened here is as objectionable as hell, even if it is happening to somebody who is far too enamored of the President’s policies in general. But this is important to note: we on the Right knew that this was going to happen, we warned people that it was going to happen, and we turned out to be correct. David Frum needs to confront that; and complaining about the situation on Twitter isn’t going to be enough to make up for this.

It would be the easiest thing in the world for David Frum to double down, and insist that he was right all along, and that we should have listened to him all along, and how we were stupid to be so stubborn all along. To which I say: your deductible doubled and you will have to pay $2,400 more a year in health insurance next year, David Frum (assuming that you can even sign up, at this point). The people who have been fighting to stop all of that are all on the other side of the GOP’s internal faction fight; if you can’t let yourself help us, then sit over there quietly and don’t make things worse.

Pretty-please, with sugar on top.

Moe Lane

15 Comments

  • acat says:

    You are far too nice, Moe.
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    Specifically, you appear to be willing to accept Frum back at some future point.
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    Mew

      • acat says:

        Never much cared for that vignette. The old man gets suckered, the other bro gets screwed, and we don’t see that the wastrel has actually *learned* anything. The rest of the story could go either way.
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        Don’t misunderstand me, I’m all for having a party, but I don’t see expecting Frum to be anything other than, well, than Frum to be rational.
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        Mew

        • Robert Mitchell Jr. says:

          Then how about this one? “The Left looks for Heretics, and finds them, the Right looks for Converts, and finds them”. Reagan was a Democrat, and we did quite well picking him up, yes? And people have noticed how badly the Democrats continue to snub Joe Lieberman for being right too soon. Which way do you think is working better?

          • acat says:

            As I said earlier, mercy is one thing, trust is another.
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            If Frum, having been mugged, decides to look at his assumptions and question them – that’s great. I won’t hassle him.
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            If, however, he decides that he was right and this is some kind of bureaucratic problem .. I will not be surprised in the least.
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            Mew

    • DemosthenesVW says:

      Nah, Moe’s right on this one. (Not that he usually isn’t.) Even setting aside the angle where you don’t mock a man who shot himself in the foot, chastizing David Frum now won’t: relieve us of Obamacare; help him to learn his lesson on said law; entice him to renounce a single word he’s written or spoken on how said law is the “fault” of an unrealistic conservative base; or do much of anything constructive.
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      If those aren’t sufficient reasons, then consider that we would be tacitly approving his earlier behavior by directing our “You should have known better” fire against him now.

      • Moe_Lane says:

        To mangle SM Stirling: it’s amazing how often showing mercy ends up having practical benefits, too. 🙂

        • acat says:

          Mercy? Sure.
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          Trust, however, is a whole ‘nother virtue.
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          Mew

          • Robert Mitchell Jr. says:

            And not one suited for the Political arena. The Founders knew that, thus “Checks and Balances”. We aren’t a Feudal system……

          • acat says:

            No, trust is absolutely essential to the operation of our body politic. Just how long do you think these states – or, these days, ideological blocs – would remain united without trust?
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            Societal trust is breaking down, the signs that we are, as a country, returning to the state Lincoln described as “a house divided against itself”, are rather hard to miss.
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            That said, I suspect you are thinking of individual trust as opposed to societal, that is the trust given to one public persona, not to “the government” or “the democrat party” in general.
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            Reagan – in reference to your prior example – had to bust his ass making up for his democrat flirtation… and did so. Worth noting that, during his time as Governor of Cali, we also had a situation where societal trust was breaking down .. and he handled it fairly effectively.
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            We got a number of great quotes from Reagan, including “Trust, but verify”. With that quote in mind, please be aware that I have no problem welcoming Frum back to the fold – Rubio either, although Moe hasn’t covered Marco’s about-face on immigration yet – but they are on my “trust, but verify” list.
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            Mew

    • tnfriendofcoal101368 says:

      Honestly, the knowledge of all the innocent people who are losing their insurance and being hit with higher health costs & unlike David Frum don’t have the financial wherewithal to withstand the increased expense.

      • tnfriendofcoal101368 says:

        Keeps me from laughing in his face. But that is the only thing.

        • Luke says:

          I feel sorry for nearly everyone who lost their insurance in the Obamacare debacle.
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          But David Frum is not among that number.
          He embraced Obamacare, and actively attempted to thwart any resistance to it.
          He now gets to sleep in the bed that he made. May he find it far from restful.

  • tnfriendofcoal101368 says:

    Like Moe said on twitter, the next boom in the insurance market is going to be plans that cover basic needs not Obamacare compliant but less expensive than Obamacare complaint plans- mandate.

  • tnfriendofcoal101368 says:

    Obamacare is a big bucket of shit (Moe excuse me please this once). More than that the shit is the fully owned property of the Democratic Party and the bucket is decaying, decrepit and leaking so that the Democratic Party’s shit is stinking up all our houses.

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