The new Suicide Squad trailer.

Well… it might not suck. They get points for tacitly reference a key part of the plot of Superman II*, at least. It’s a question that SOMEBODY would be bringing up, at any rate.

Moe Lane

*We’re all on the same page about how Superman II was the best Superman movie, yes?

20 thoughts on “The new Suicide Squad trailer.”

  1. Those who forget the lesson of “Superman III” are doomed to repeat it and then have to rely upon Milton to burn the building down to save them from Federal prison.

  2. I will confess that although I remember enjoying Superman II lo these many years ago, I have no *specific* recollections of that film. Clarify your point, s’il vous plait?

      1. Yeah. Just ice cream going in people’s faces (because ha ha), magic logo powers, Kryptonian hide and seek (or whatever the frak that was), regaining powers with no explanation given, and Clark Kent beating up someone in the denouement because Superman had himself a little revenge boner.
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        I will take reverse-time against all of that anyday.

  3. I have no opinion, since I’ve never seen any of the Christopher Reeve Superman movies…

      1. Not quite, though I sympathize with your feelings on this one. The third one was “Whoof, that sucked.” It wasn’t until the fourth that we get “Dear God, why?”

        1. Ok, fair point.
          (But are you talking about the most recent, or the second most recent? I avoided them both after reading reviews.)

          1. By “the fourth,” you mean? Am I talking about “Superman Returns” or “Man of Steel”? Neither. I am talking about the 1987 release “Superman IV: The Quest for Peace,” starring Christopher Reeve, Gene Hackman, Mariel Hemingway, Mark Pillow, Jackie Cooper, and Margot Kidder.

  4. We are on that same page, yes…but only if you are talking about the Richard Donner director’s cut. If you are talking about the theatrical cut, then no, I’m afraid that the original is still the best. The better material in the theatrical version of II is also unfortunately sabotaged by the much worse slapstick crap.
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    My ranking:
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    Superman II (Donner cut)
    Superman
    Superman II (Lester cut)
    [[[LINE OF ACCEPTABILITY]]]
    Superman Returns
    Batman v. Superman: Dawn of Justice
    Man of Steel
    Superman III
    Superman IV: The Quest for Peace

    1. I may be talking about the Richard Donner cut. I think that I am talking about the Donner cut. Yeah, now that I remember that there was a version that I saw that had more stuff in it than I remembered from the theater: yup, I’m talking about the Donner cut. My bad.

        1. Not quite: Superman Returns (WHICH IS THE TRUE SUPERMAN III) is above my personal Line of Acceptability. Spacey’s performance by itself redeemed SR, and I really wanted to wash the damn taste of the False Third and Fourth movies out of my mouth.

          1. Indeed, I thought everything was great about Superman Returns…except their casting for Superman. He makes a good Atom, though…

            As for Suicide Squad, I think I may have hit my superhero movie threshold. Batman v Superman disappointed me. I am positively ambivalent about Civil War, because it destroys Tony Stark’s character. And this movie does nothing for me.

            X-Men Apocalypse, OTOH, does look quite promising.

          2. For me, it falls on the bad side of the line because of the whole portrayal of Superman. That starts with Routh — who was just too bland. (I agree with RangerSG, though, that he makes a pretty good Atom.) But the suit didn’t work, the extended Christ metaphor didn’t work, his ability to lift a whole kryptonite island defies belief…it’s just, no.
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            But I admit I liked Spacey’s Luthor better than Hackman’s, and for that matter, I think Kate Bosworth has been the best Lois Lane to date…including Amy Adams. (Sorry, Amy.) So while it still falls on my bad side, I understand your point of view and concede its legitimacy.

  5. I’m torn.
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    It looks good.
    And Suicide Squad has always been tightly and well written. It’s a property that has a very consistent vision that’s easy to communicate and stick with. It isn’t going to alienate half the audience by asking “what is good” and coming down squarely on the side of Utilitarianism.
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    But Joker gets *way* too much screentime in the trailer. He isn’t the kind of case the team is sent after, and it’s completely unclear why he’s part of the story at all.

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