“No, because any of that deal would take a while to get going and years from whenever and if ever it happens. So, certainly it won’t impact the five movies we’ve announced, and it probably wouldn’t impact anything for a handful of years after that. Because really, we’re not thinking about that. We’re thinking of delivering on what we promised. Any movie, especially for any characters we don’t have the rights to yet until someone tells us we do, would be even further after that.”
Just like Avi Arad was pooh-poohing any thought of Spider-Man playing second fiddle in the MCU:
“But if we want to do that, the crossovers, it has to be a story that is absolutely centered on Spider-Man. We cannot be second banana to anything out there.”
…while Sony was negotiating doing precisely that.
My point here is — well, it’s that you can’t really call what a movie producer does when he’s moving his lips ‘lying.’ I mean, sure, technically it is — yet, somehow, it’s not. They are absolutely talking about how to get the Fantastic Four into the MCU at this very moment, and the second the ink’s signed it’s going to go into high gear. “Phases” or not. Those ‘phases’ are blank spots on a spreadsheet, somewhere; and if Marvel/Disney can instead put in things like ‘Fantastic Four,’ ‘Namor,’ or ‘DOOM,’ they will.
Seriously. Look, I want to see the Ms. Marvel movie, and Black Panther sequels, and a Black Widow standalone spy thriller, sure. But a Fantastic Four movie that doesn’t suck? The sound that you’re hearing is my enthusiasm meter going back up. And that meter sounds like MONEY. Seriously. It’s like, coins rattling down a pipe.