Strong hints of future Fantastic Four flicks in Disney’s conference call.

A very interesting statement here, from the Mouse’s Q3 2018 earnings conference call:

Our strategy is to give the studio what it needs to continue to do what it does best and to also expand the brand’s high-quality storytelling into the DTC space with original television and film projects. 20th Century Fox Film is yet another example. It gives us the opportunity to be associated with and to expand iconic movie franchises like Avatar, Marvel’s X-Men, The Fantastic Four, Deadpool, Planet of the Apes, Kingsman, and many others. We’re obviously very excited to leverage the Fox assets to enhance and accelerate our DTC strategy. But I want to be clear that we remain incredibly supportive and enthusiastic about the movie theater experience. It’s a vital part of our company and in fact, our studio just crossed $6 billion in global box office for the third year in a row.



Disney makes Fox an offer it won’t refuse?

Maybe: “Walt Disney Co. raised its offer for 21st Century Fox Inc.’s entertainment assets to $71.3 billion, outbidding Comcast Corp. in a battle for one of the media industry’s biggest prizes.” Bloomberg also notes that “Disney also plans to take on about $13.8 billion of Fox’s net debt. That would lift the total transaction value above about $85 billion.”  Couple that with the suggestion that Disney may be clearing regulatory hurdles, and it looks like the Disney/Fox merger is a couple of steps closer.

Which leads to the important question: how long will it take for Marvel to create an ends credit scene for the next Avengers flick that looks like this?



Kevin Feige: Naaaah, no Fantastic Four in the MCU any time soon. Nope. Unh-uhh.

Not a chance of it happening.  Swamp gas reflecting off of Venus.  Fer sure. Kevin Feige is absolutely saying that:

“No, because any of that deal would take a while to get going and years from whenever and if ever it happens. So, certainly it won’t impact the five movies we’ve announced, and it probably wouldn’t impact anything for a handful of years after that. Because really, we’re not thinking about that. We’re thinking of delivering on what we promised. Any movie, especially for any characters we don’t have the rights to yet until someone tells us we do, would be even further after that.”

Just like Avi Arad was pooh-poohing any thought of Spider-Man playing second fiddle in the MCU: (more…)


Would this be worth letting Thanos win?

Well, obviously not.

But the basic point is correct: Marvel has an obvious way to rejuvenate the MCU, doesn’t it?

Moe Lane

PS: There is a rumor of a possibility of a hint that Silver Surfer might have a walk-on role of some kind in Infinity War.  Not to get your hopes up, or anything.  And if that sounds like something would have leaked, well: you’d say the same of Spider-Man showing up in Civil War.



I told you all back in JANUARY: “I’m starting to think that the only real solution here is to have Marvel and/or Disney invade Fox, conquer it, and annex outright the F4 and X-Men properties.”  And, do you know what happened?  I WAS RIGHT.  It’s looking like a done deal (Via Allahpundit): Marvel/Disney is going to acquire 20th Century Fox as soon as the lawyers finish doing… whatever it is that they do.

And after that, geez, Marvel/Disney gets the one thing that they needed to keep the MCU interesting for the next ten years: new superheroes and villains that aren’t derivative of the original ones. They’re not going to have to scrape the bottom of the barrel; in fact, they already have.  Marvel did the Avengers and the Guardians of the Galaxy and Ant-Freaking-Man because the Fantastic Four and the X-Men had already been sold.  Funny how that worked out, huh?



Scenes from Marvel’s Shadow War with Fox over Fantastic Four.

I missed this for some reason, but: there’s been some allegations cropping up that Marvel has been sabotaging their own Fantastic Four comic book line because the movies keeping sucking so bad. Said allegations are coming from Fantastic Four writer Jonathan Hickman, so you’ll need to take that with a grain of salt, there. Still:

”I think it’s pretty common knowledge at this point that Marvel isn’t publishing Fantastic Four because of their disagreement with Fox,” Hickman explained. “While it bums me out, I completely understand because, well, it isn’t like they’re not acting out of cause. Fox needs to do a better job there.”

Hickman’s reasoning seems to imply that Marvel did indeed drop the FF because of the Fox films – not necessarily for financial reasons, but because the most recent reboot was both critically and financially unsuccessful, and failed to reflect well on Marvel’s comic books. Marvel still publishes an entire line of X-Men comic books, for example, despite Fox also controlling that franchise’s film rights.

…is a potent argument, not least because the movies have been really, really bad. (more…)


Whither the Fantastic Four?

Doctor Strange director Scott Derrickson wants to integrate the Fantastic Four into the Marvel Cinematic Universe.  (pause) …You know what I’m going to say about that, right?  Yup: “And I want a pony.”

It’s starkly incomprehensible why Fox can’t make a watchable F4 movie. It’s not the superheroes in question: they’ve got a good interpersonal dynamic and absolutely top-file villains to fight. Doctor Doom alone would be a stellar addition to the MCU’s bad-guy roster, and God knows that the MCU needs more good villains not named Loki. But you can’t really do Doom without Reed Richards, and the MCU can’t get Reed Richards without Fox’s permission, and Fox won’t give that permission and apparently can’t do the job right on its own.

I’m starting to think that the only real solution here is to have Marvel and/or Disney invade Fox, conquer it, and annex outright the F4 and X-Men properties…


So, you’re thinking: ‘Just how bad WILL the Fantastic Four reboot be?’

And you look at this, and you think that you know.

And then you look at this, and you think that you know.

“He’s Victor Domashev, not Victor Von Doom in our story,” says Kebbel. “The Doom in ours—I’m a programmer.  Very anti-social programmer.  And on blogging sites I’m ‘Doom.’”

And then you look even more at this, and you think that you know.

It’s a strange take, but one that’s very much aligned with what Kebbel calls the very “realistic”[*] and “lo-fi” vision that director Josh Trank is bringing to the franchise.

But the true horror will only be found on the Wikipedia page. It’s… subtle; mostly, you have to be capable of recognizing the distinctive olfactory spoor of ingrained failure and doom. Superhero movie fans are quite familiar with the scent, although admittedly not as much as we used to. (more…)

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