I’m pretty freaking conflicted about this movie.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E-ou7Fr7Gco
On the one hand: I’ve only seen about half of Man of Steel – I got called away from it at that point, and never got back to it. That doesn’t really persuade me that the next film in that particular series is going to be highly awesome. On the other hand, they are ABSOLUTELY signalling that this movie is going to draw heavily from The Dark Knight Returns, which is the only sane way that they could possibly do a Batman vs. Superman movie. And on the gripping hand, this series is going to be around for a while whether I like it or not.
Oh, who am I kidding? We all know that I’m going to go see this movie. Not when it comes out, but probably within a week or so. The reviews will tell me that it’s better than expected, and that will be enough to get me to go. Guess I better finish Man of Steel…
Moe Lane
Slip back, Moe.
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Embrace your inner self.
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The movie will not be everything you want. Your intellect will starve.
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Just go in to it as if you were twelve; toss every other thing in the back of the car when you park.
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Enjoy…being entertained. Enjoy…fun. Just. Fun.
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So little wants to say “Yay Fun!” so be twelve and dare to have fun.
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Daring to have fun is rarely regretted, you know.
I have zero desire to see this movie. Man of Steel did nothing for me. And this series hasn’t even established who Supes is, let alone that we should care if he and Batman are friends or not.
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Which brings us to this Batman. I’m not doubting Ben could play the Bats. But all their signaling has been “Don’t think of this as Bale’s Batman.” Well then, what Batman is it? Not Adam West’s campalot. They haven’t bothered to establish who this Batman is without the Bale movies.
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Which makes this the same problem I had with going straight to Khan in the second Star Trek movie. It’s the old reboot error of trying to claim hooks it hasn’t earned yet. It makes for internal inconsistency and lazy writing. Which plagued the 1st movie (and pretty much every Superman movie since the second Reeves film).
I’m more or less expecting it to suck.
The tone disparity between Batman and Superman is pretty jarring. Pulling it off successfully is something I’m less than confident about.
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Let’s face it, if the Big Blue Boyscout gets at all dark and gritty, then Lex Luthor is right.
But make it too campy, and you’re looking at Batman & Robin. (Something I’m sure Chris O’Donnell wishes he had never been associated with.)
Any way you try to play it, you’re taking a risk with valuable IP and many millions of dollars of investments. With the infamous executive meddling of Hollywood…
I just don’t see them pulling it off.
This isn’t a lowish budget labor of love like Deadpool. This is the tentpole that’s going to lay the foundation for a number of DC properties movies.
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Of course. I could be wrong. DC has done very well with The Flash and Arrow. (And before that with Young Justice. It’s a travesty that the network cancelled it for appealing to the wrong demographic. Justice League Unlimited was very good, too.) If they’re calling the shots, they just might pull it off.
It actually looks like if anything it’s going to subvert Dark Knight Returns — setting up similar conditions for Batman, but then engineering it so that he’s essentially the one learning he’s wrong.
I think. Honestly, the trailers are muddled.
Anyway. This isn’t my Superman, as I said at the time. Then again, I’m middle aged. It doesn’t have to be.
I can live with subversion. Subversion still gives proper due to what has come before. 🙂
I … kind of liked Man of Steel. It’s definitely a movie with problems, though, and I’m pretty far from sold on this sequel.
On one level, Man of Steel was a good movie–it delivered action, etc. But it wasn’t a good _Superman_ movie for reasons we all know about by now. I’m not looking forward to SvB at all, because I’m not sure it’ll do better. And throwing Wonder Woman in out of the blue could be good or bad–no way to tell at this point.
Now once it’s been out a few days and reviews are in, and Rotten Tomatoes has a score, and we know whether the box office scores show it’s a hit or not, I might go see it.
The only reason I’m going to go is for the Wonder Woman story to see how they handle her. I know she’s all girrrll power now, which is fine, mostly, but it’s so easy to take it too far into the man despising area. The trailers have really done a disservice to this movie, it’s all muddled and dark colors. If they want the Dark Knight Batman then they needed to set it up properly. Going straight to it doesn’t seem to work.
Luthor’s line in the film about day going against night only works if Superman is truly “day”, and I don’t get that from the previews. This is one of the draw backs of having read and collected comics for the last 30 years. I remember when Dark Knight hit the stands and it was amazing, now it’s the only Batman that seems to exist.
“Luthor’s line in the film about day going against night only works if Superman is truly “day”, and I don’t get that from the previews”
I didn’t really get that from the last movie, either.